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« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2007, 01:50:55 am »
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« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2007, 06:59:28 am »
Although I'm Buddhist, our family celebrates Christmas every year as well. It seems to be more about the celebration and presents. XD

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« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2007, 07:20:15 am »
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Although I'm Buddhist, our family celebrates Christmas every year as well. It seems to be more about the celebration and presents. XD


Yeah, no problem there. Socially the holiday has already been given several different meanings, and the main focus has become on the family and togetherness. That's certainly something that should be celebrated and remembered, and nobody should be shunned from doing that. ^_^


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« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2007, 05:39:02 pm »
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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2007, 06:32:39 pm »
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Thank God for tolerant Christians.


Amen, brother!

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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2007, 06:48:30 pm »
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Thank God for tolerant Christians.


Amen, brother!


I agree.

While I may not be christian, or religious, I have my own set of spiritual beliefs. I'm agnostic so I don't believe or disbelieve in a god, I definitely don't believe in a heaven or hell, and I take many aspects of Buddhism into my own beliefs. It's my own mixture of different religions that works for me.

I love to debate, but no persecuting for me! You believe what you believe and I believe what I believe. As long as you don't tell me I'm wrong. I won't tell you you're wrong.

Just because you're not religious doesn't mean you can't be spiritual.
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« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2007, 06:51:18 pm »
This is all well and good, but it in no way explains NGE to me. It's like Christianity explained by a pantheist. Or are angels and devils robots in disguise?
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« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2007, 08:10:48 pm »
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This is all well and good, but it in no way explains NGE to me. It's like Christianity explained by a pantheist. Or are angels and devils robots in disguise?


Yeah, good luck with that, Jay.  Why not turn that into your thesis project?

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« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2007, 08:28:19 pm »
I could turn those rabbit ears into silk purses with more enjoyment.
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« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2007, 09:17:05 pm »
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I'm a Christian! I'm also very active in my church, Rolling Hills Community.

Actually, the people that got me into Anime are all christians as well!


That's no surprise.  Last I checked, the vast majority of the people in this country self-identify as such.

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« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2007, 10:27:07 pm »
And we're becoming more and more Catholic too, what with all the immigration going on. Hello 17th century all over again!

How many different bibles are there? I don't mean Torah, Bible, Koran, I mean King James, what Catholics use, and what others use. Just curious. I heard something at my brother's wedding that made me wonder that, as what was said at the wedding was not in my Oxford Study Bible.
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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2007, 04:47:01 pm »
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How many different bibles are there?
Two of the versions that Catholics use are the Douay-Rheims and the American Standard (with maybe 3 or so other authorized versions, too.) There are probably over a dozen other versions throughout the rest of Christendom. Most of them vary by reading level. ("What does 'deign' mean?")

I discovered an amusing 'escaped' variation called 'The Heliand.' Remember the game of 'telephone,' when you tell something to someone, and pass it on, then check it about 15 people down the line?

Well, around the 5th century some early Christian missionaries spread the Word into Gothic lands (the real Goths, Visigoths, Swabes, Wends, Jutes, etc...)

... and about 500 years later (1066AD,) this one Germanic guy tries to 'witness' to someone who's already a monk. The monk, Adam of Bremen, immediately recognizes the Tale of Christ, and offered to write it down, to the joy of the man who had memorized it as it had been told to him, handed down word of mouth. Adam was probably thinking to himself: "Dude this is RICH, I gotta write down your version!"

The result reads something like the Gospel According to Beowulf. What's most interesting is that despite the change in settings and details, terms, and other scenes, basic Christian theology remains intact: sin, repentance,  and salvation are there, as is the Sermon of the Mount.

But other details are hilariously morphed into The High Adventure of Mighty Christ and his Armed Retainers. Everybody's boats and ships are the high-prowed build common to Northern Europe. Peter is kind of a Boromir/Berserk character and a great guy to be on *your side* in any RPG-type tavern brawl. In the Wedding Feast at Hill-Fort Cana, everybody is there to get thoroughly blotto. Christ's 40 days in the desert (typical Goth: "What's a desert?") became 40 days of single combat with the devil: swords, shields, helms, armor and all. The Temptations are exchanged between blows. CLANK! THUD!

Very fun reading.

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« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2007, 07:32:42 pm »
Reminds me of a version of the nativity story used by early Mongols right before Kubla Khans expansion to the west.   The Nativity took place in a horse pasture and all the had to wrap the baby in was an old horse blanket.

There was a movie once ware some one retold the Christ story in native American terms.  Allthough it was a movie I'm sure the same process may have been used as by Misionaries in Mexico who taught in Aztec terms and redressed some saints and important bible figures as Aztec gods
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« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2007, 07:51:36 pm »
A few days ago, I ventured into fanfiction.net, where I was a little surprised to find a rather large collection of bible fanfics!  I lol'd!

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« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2007, 07:55:53 pm »
Not Christian here.  But currently looking for my own spiritual identity  :D

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« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2007, 04:13:25 pm »
Miau~!!  Used to practice more....But since moving around, it's hard to settle, you know?  I also like Anime, but I was in church before I was into anime.  *shrug*  Hooray for open-mindedness!

.......Are there really Bible fictions?  What....(I'm going to regret this)...would an example plot be for these??  O_o

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« Reply #66 on: June 18, 2007, 07:50:01 am »
This brings to mind Cosplay Church. Did anyone attend that last year. Bible Study on Alchemy as related to Full Metal Alchemist on the Sunday morning of the Con. It was pretty sweet and I'm curious if those two plan to make a return?


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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2007, 04:22:39 pm »
Just watched Trinity Blood. Made me laugh a bit, with the liberties they took with the Catholic church of the future. That and mixing up Latin with English.

Esther is a Persian name. Astre is Latin for star, not English.
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« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2007, 09:32:02 am »
Yeah, that show/manga is pretty cool/interesting to see the different sources they used and how they compiled them.


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« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2007, 11:14:23 am »
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.......Are there really Bible fictions?  What....(I'm going to regret this)...would an example plot be for these??  O_o


I didn't stay long enough to browse, but I'll bet there's some hot yaoi action in there!

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« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2007, 12:24:28 pm »
Well, the Bible fanfics are usually just Bible stories illustrated in manga format. Not original takes or actual fiction, I'd imagine.


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« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2007, 04:39:51 pm »
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Well, the Bible fanfics are usually just Bible stories illustrated in manga format. Not original takes or actual fiction, I'd imagine.


Well, fanfiction.net doesn't host images, so they can't be manga.  I can't verify right now since the site's blocked by my company's firewall (and with good reason too - I wouldn't want my employees going in that cesspool of Mary-Sue fic and furry pr0n)

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« Reply #72 on: July 01, 2007, 01:02:32 am »
My female Muslim friend went to Japan recently and was lucky enough to visit Gamers.  For whatever reason, seems like all the Muslim friends I've had have all loved anime. She also picked up a yukata. I'm jealous to the max. I thought of posting her pics, but dunno if she'd be too happy about me doing so. She's totally geeking out in some of the pics, too.

Most of my friends are atheist/agnostic. Not that I have a problem with anyone that believes in a deity, but that's just how it is.

For most intents and purposes, I probably follow most of what is considered to be "proper" for a religious person anyways. I don't smoke, I don't do drugs, I don't even drink caffeine. Although I do swear like a sailor. But I never say "G** damn" or anything like that.. even when some of my religious friends do.

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« Reply #73 on: July 01, 2007, 09:31:38 am »
I am Christian and into anime.. Am I too late to post? ;-;

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« Reply #74 on: July 02, 2007, 09:42:59 am »
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I am Christian and into anime.. Am I too late to post? ;-;


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« Reply #75 on: July 02, 2007, 10:19:10 am »
I know it is too late to post but I figured I'd chime in with the others.
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« Reply #76 on: July 02, 2007, 11:27:42 am »
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I know it is too late to post

I wasn't serious you know.  It's only too late when guspasho locks the thread.

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« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2007, 11:57:36 pm »
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Eh...I'm of the opinion of seperation of Church and Anime. XD Just saying!

We need people like you in politics more often...sheesh...
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« Reply #78 on: July 02, 2007, 11:58:30 pm »
I think I have said this before... roman catholic jew here....and also a republican wow I am just crazy....
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« Reply #79 on: July 03, 2007, 09:48:24 am »
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Eh...I'm of the opinion of seperation of Church and Anime. XD Just saying!

We need people like you in politics more often...sheesh...
I'm Buddhist, by the way. :)
(and politics rule too, go lefties! xD)


Whew! I guess I'm not alone around here!  Also, I'm a kinda wannabe Buddhist fanboy!

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« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2007, 10:11:52 am »
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Eh...I'm of the opinion of seperation of Church and Anime. XD Just saying!

We need people like you in politics more often...sheesh...
I'm Buddhist, by the way. :)
(and politics rule too, go lefties! xD)


Whew! I guess I'm not alone around here!  Also, I'm a kinda wannabe Buddhist fanboy!


Seperation of church and anime....when has one ever even crossed over into the other's territory? I mean, I understand it may have been a joke or whatever, but still...just kind of overly "protective", wouldn't you say?


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« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2007, 10:22:59 am »
well, I can't name anything in anime, and I think it was a joke. :)
I'd like to keep it to there being no examples, too.

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« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2007, 10:29:05 am »
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Seperation of church and anime....when has one ever even crossed over into the other's territory?


Well, not in Japanese animation, but it's been known to happen in this country.  Like that thing with the Christian vegetables...

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« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2007, 10:34:25 am »
Come to think of it, a particularly interesting example is Night on the Galactic Railroad.  I'd like to note also that I really enjoy watching this sort of thing, as I think it's a valuable artistic exploration of pretty important themes.  It's a far cry from the kiddie oriented brainwashing of that tomato and carrot thing.

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« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2007, 10:35:53 am »
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It's a far cry from the kiddie oriented brainwashing of that tomato and carrot thing.

But I thought everyone loved Veggie Tales! :D
(worst. show. evah.)

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« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2007, 10:49:43 am »
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(worst. show. evah.)


I guess you never saw the Anna Nicole Smith show.  What a legacy that woman left!

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« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2007, 06:41:35 pm »
You poor thing. What Anna Nicole show? It was on prime time then eh? Sorry, I work those hours.

You know, I see a bit of a common thread running through here. On the face of it is anti-Christian sentiment, but what it really is, is intolerance. People running their mouths off, and not showing any enlightenment they possess themselves.

You got to watch for that from any direction. Christians, and anti-Christians, and non-Christians, especially today with it being real easy to make this world a holy battlefield. (Batman!)

Say a few Na Myo Ho Renge Kyo's and call me in the morning. Like 2 hours worth of those!
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« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2007, 07:04:37 pm »
For me, that's not it, it has nothing to do with Christian or non-Christian.
Veggie Tales is just a really stupid show, and that's what I think. :)

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Oh, and another thing... this is just a thread in the kumori-con forums, not the place to look for enlightening conversation. Look elsewhere if you want that, imo.
On top of that, it appears to me that you're being intolerant of intolerant people. :P

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« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2007, 08:00:48 pm »
Oh geez. lol. Take a chill pill, guys!

Whatever someone is, leave them be. I don't think what religion you are relates to one's love for anime.

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« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2007, 08:22:59 pm »
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I am Christian and into anime.. Am I too late to post? ;-;


Yes, yes you are.


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« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2007, 08:39:49 pm »
The Passion of the Benny Hill Just to show I am not immune to fun. The one you want is the second one down.
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« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2007, 11:22:38 pm »
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Oh geez. lol. Take a chill pill, guys!

Whatever someone is, leave them be. I don't think what religion you are relates to one's love for anime.


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« Reply #92 on: July 04, 2007, 12:44:29 pm »
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On top of that, it appears to me that you're being intolerant of intolerant people. :P

I can't tolerate that! >=/
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« Reply #93 on: July 06, 2007, 01:14:29 pm »
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Oh geez. lol. Take a chill pill, guys!

Whatever someone is, leave them be. I don't think what religion you are relates to one's love for anime.


*Shakes head*
This one was just a flameout waiting to happen.  I'm just surprised it tool so long!  

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On that note, as I see people starting to get pissy, it's time to lock this thread. Everyone's religion is fine, and I'm even ok with people expressing pride in their religion, but commentary about other peoples' preferences inevitably leads to flamewars, which are bad, mmmkay? Let's not forget that Kumoricon is about anime.

Everyone wave bye to this thread.
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