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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #750 on: May 12, 2010, 10:10:21 am »
Starting Friday I will be on a challenge. A way to boast start my betterness. ^^: and to help recover for the being off due to cold I had and depression cheats I did last 2 days. first part is to stick to my eating plan (which I will be changing to 1500 to 1800 cals, will know why in a second.) Part two I have 6 dvds I got that are 30 minute workouts from the dollar store a long time ago, I will do them m-sat when I wake up with my son at 7ish. Part 3, WATER! I will not drink less then 8 cups a day. part 4, vitamins, I will not forget to take them. part 5, I will go to the gym to treadmill 4 times a week. Part 6, Then go to the gym for weights and treadmill the other 3 days a week. I will do this for 5 weeks. I also have work, so I run a lot there, and anything else that might come up. Who wants to take the challenge with me???

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #751 on: May 12, 2010, 11:36:23 am »
That is very similar to my plan. So far my calorie intake is about 1400 a day. With that I walk around 3 miles a day just to classes so that helps me work out. And I also have been going to the gym for at least 30 minutes each day (Monday and Friday are the 30 minutes). I also need to remember to take my daily vitamin and to drink more water. I am pretty sure I can do it.

I am going to keep this up till I see the results I want then I will work out a routine to maintain that weight :3

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #752 on: May 12, 2010, 11:46:26 am »
yay i finaly got celery! getting healthy food in my hosue when my parents go shoping is so hard! ><

my legs dont burn so much after my nightly work outs any more and my thigh muscles dont seem to have any fat in them any more either! yay muscles! im also gonna try to do the "we cheer" work outs either every night or every oher night as well to help with the rest of my body. the or playing wii fit alot more... and not being lam and just shaking the remote for run... but actual running xD lets go muscles lets go!
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #753 on: May 12, 2010, 12:07:12 pm »
My shoulder is kind of tender still. D: I hope this doesn't affect my workouts because I was hoping to do deadlifts on Thursday.  Maybe I'll do squats instead. D:

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #754 on: May 12, 2010, 03:55:04 pm »
I ATE A LOT TODAY~ But I'm going on my jog in a bit so it should be okay *A*

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #755 on: May 12, 2010, 06:20:18 pm »
Went to the doctor today for a checkup, and I probably won't be able to work out until like Friday. It's been nice though, so maybe I'll go for a walk after dinner today.

I got my diet back on track, though.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #756 on: May 12, 2010, 07:20:55 pm »
I haven't been able to work out this week. I moved on Friday and have just recently gotten settled. I suddenly have job interviews stacked one on top of the other and my other job over that. owo

I'm hoping that by next week things will be back on track.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #757 on: May 14, 2010, 01:51:21 am »
reppy - when i was doing some gymnastics using the floating rings, the first time i did a full dislocation (a full circle) my shoulders felt like they were on fire for a few seconds and tender for a bit after that.  If you did dislocate your shoulder without damaging anything you should be fine after a day or two, anything more then 4-5 days you should probably have someone look at it :)

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #758 on: May 14, 2010, 02:19:26 pm »
Thanks.  It seems ok.  It's still slightly sore, like I can tell something happened, but it hasn't really affected me too much in my day-to-day activities.  I wasn't able to do any squats yesterday like I had hoped, and certainly no deadlifts.  But at work, I'm lifting 40-60lbs boxes and I seem to be doing fine with that so far. ^_^;

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #759 on: May 14, 2010, 02:48:23 pm »
Must stop being sick! Its been one thing after another! Food poisoning straight into a debilitating head cold! Only good thing was I lost 5 pounds during the food poisoning stint.  :P
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #760 on: May 14, 2010, 03:24:49 pm »
woo' ! Lost 2 pounds in 2 weeks (= yay good eating and no Soda / sugar
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #761 on: May 14, 2010, 07:37:38 pm »
Could you guys believe today's weather? It got up to around 74 in Washington! On the Western side no less! How was it in Oregon?

My pants size has shrunk!
I couldn't believe it when I went shopping earilier today. I went from a 16, when I started, to a 12! :o
I was on such a trip I actually managed to resisit a Klondike bar. (Which, I'll admit, is a challenge within itself self.)
Sadly, the tummy won't go away.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #762 on: May 14, 2010, 08:22:50 pm »
Yes the weather was amazing in SW WA. I went for a 10-15 min jog. Then came home, went in the backyard took off my shirt, dumped my water bottle on my head then soaked up as much sun as I could in 10-15 mins xD

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #763 on: May 15, 2010, 06:50:21 pm »
gained another 2 lbs >.> and track is over now. But I'll have to walk home part of the time and I plan on making a work out schedule for summer.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #764 on: May 16, 2010, 12:18:32 am »
weather in oregon is great!  And as for the klondike bar, just eat it if you feel like it.  Sometime that day do 15 minutes of cardio and its gone, its not that hard to get rid of a snack.  The hard part is remembering ALL the snacks you had, and making sure you work out to keep your figure for the long run.  Hope you all are having a super night all :)

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How bad is drinking for you?  I'm pretty gone as I wright this but for some reason I don't think its going to do to much to my figure. ^.^
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #765 on: May 16, 2010, 02:44:17 am »
I'm anti-drinking xD but I dunno to be honest.  Seems a lot of the websites I visit advocate against drinking, so ..

I guess to me it doesn't make sense to spend time perfecting my body and then doing stuff like drinking or smoking. ^_^;

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #766 on: May 16, 2010, 05:16:33 am »
Now that I feel normal.  The way I see it, if you don't drink much, the body can usually heal/recover from small amounts of anything.  If the food you put into yourself is not great for your body, it is the same as other foreign matter.  So I guess a few drinks on the body wont effect my workout any worse then possibly binging on sweets like others might do.  The only thing I'm wondering would be how long does any effect from drinking have on the body last, for my fitness and workouts, if there are any at all past the obvious effects?

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #767 on: May 16, 2010, 11:36:58 am »
I usually eat something reasonably healthy if I end up drinking. Really its more the food that you eat when drinking that causes most sickness and general weight gain and discomfort from what I have noticed. Like if I choose to have a bottle of smirnoffs rasberry blast after a really rough day I like to eat it with some steamed brown rice and sauteed spinach. But yeah everything in moderation! ;D
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #768 on: May 16, 2010, 06:13:15 pm »
I ate really badly this weekend. There were some cute young girls selling Krispy Kreme donuts outside of work x.x I ate like 8 of them.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #769 on: May 16, 2010, 07:31:35 pm »
Okay!

Today I worked out for the first time since I got sick. I only got a tiny bit of asthma about halfway through, but otherwise I was fine.
I'm also going to be going back on my diet, although I weighed myself today for the first time all weekend and I still lost weight.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #770 on: May 16, 2010, 11:14:23 pm »
I was bad and had ice cream this weekend. :/ I feel better knowing that, to get it, I walked about 7 miles. *shrug*

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #771 on: May 16, 2010, 11:16:42 pm »
Speaking of ice cream, I had three bowls of the stuff on Saturday, IT WAS SO GOOD.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #772 on: May 16, 2010, 11:38:49 pm »
@camname21 - As long as your drinking is in moderation, I'm sure you'll be fine. I mean, we've all seen beer bellies, right? But it takes a lot of steady imbibing to get there, at which point there's other health issues, like liver damage. A few drinks every now and then shouldn't throw off a diet/workout regimen. Though they still contain calories.

I'm nearly done with my Ayla cosplay from Chrono Trigger, but I haven't found a con to wear it to yet. It's a little too cold around here, methinks! But I wanted to be able to wear it with more confidence, so I've been doing a mini-workout for my arms and stomach every night: 2 sets of 15 crunches, 30 bicep curls (8 lb. weights), 2 sets of 15 reverse crunches, 10 pushups, 15 tricep curls, and one 25-second 'plank' hold (which kills me every time).

So far I've been noticing a faint change to the upper abs, but does anyone know of a good workout for the lower abs? I should probably be throwing in an exercise that focuses on the obliques, too, just to round it out.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #773 on: May 17, 2010, 12:14:11 am »
Hm I'm not really sure.  I loathe doing direct ab work.  ^_^;  I get my core workout from stuff like planks (front and sides), hand walkouts, stability ball roll outs, pull-ups / chin-ups .. xD

I've been doing a lot of shoulder work lately.  Mobility stuff.  Like scapular wall slides.  I think everyone here could benefit from it, since we're all nerds that spend way too much time slouched in front of keyboards. XD

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #774 on: May 17, 2010, 07:27:11 am »

So far I've been noticing a faint change to the upper abs, but does anyone know of a good workout for the lower abs? I should probably be throwing in an exercise that focuses on the obliques, too, just to round it out.

For lower abs you could do leg lifts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gI2SuaSYDk Or you can just hold your feet above the ground for a couple of seconds.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #775 on: May 17, 2010, 07:53:19 am »
the leg lifts i've been doing has been helping alo with my thighs but not much to my abs. im gonna start doing more ab exercises and give the planks a secound chance xD heres hoping i can get a flater tummy before all thouse bely-exposing-cosplays come around.... not to mention swimsuit season
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #776 on: May 17, 2010, 09:18:03 am »
I am going to do the 100 push up challenge. Its a six week program. I think I can do it and if I can my arms and chest will look pretty nice when I am done :D

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #777 on: May 17, 2010, 09:24:28 am »
Yeah I've seen that! Just make sure you're using the proper form! ^_^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBzaaGg4tv0

After watching this video I realized my arms flare out to the sides way too much. ^_^;

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #778 on: May 17, 2010, 06:50:08 pm »
Leg lifts! I could cry. I'd forgotten about those (/blocked them from memory). My old karate sensei used to have us do those, and then tell us to hold 6 inches above the ground while he'd leave the room. Thanks, I'll add those into my workout! And that's some good info in the pushup video. Yep, I was doing them wrong, too.

Looking through this thread made me think of how much junk food I actually eat - I started today on an endeavor to eat a more well-balanced diet, with plenty of protein, fruits, and vegetables.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #779 on: May 17, 2010, 07:33:23 pm »
I'm at work eatin my lunch xD Raw almonds, string cheese,  fruit leather, and turkey with cheese on sprouted grain. Pretty good xD

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #780 on: May 17, 2010, 08:04:48 pm »
I am tempted to try out this P90x workout. Unfortunately it is very expensive but a lot of people have seen results from it. Oh yeah everyone mentions that it is very hard though.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #781 on: May 18, 2010, 04:02:25 am »
Weighed myself today. Didn't lose anything, but didn't gain anything either.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #782 on: May 18, 2010, 07:17:36 am »
Sounds about right. I've been stuck on a stint recently. Can't lose, but I'm not gaining.
I think I need to start a more intense work out but that can take up quite a bit of time.  :-\ I think I'll start the 100 Push-Up Challenge and continue it into the summer. Than, I'll take the 100 Squat Challenge along with lots of walks...bring on the burn.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #783 on: May 18, 2010, 08:54:21 am »
I did so many push-ups yesterday. I didn't even keep count but it was probably close to 50 (not in a row there was a time gap between them). I also worked my core pretty hard. Its a little sore today.

The workout plan today is 30 minutes of cardio and leg strengthening.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #784 on: May 18, 2010, 10:37:55 am »
I need to start getting to bed on time, and stop cheating on my diet. I was doing so good yesterday, missed breakfast since I overslept. (until 9:45) and ended up only having the Almonds part of my lunch. but was doing good on the rest. Until about 7ish, when I should have just had my last instant breakfast drink. I ended up, after having drink, eating until like 12. I ate too much last night. rice, chew main (spelling?), fried shrimp, cheese (which I don't like that much even.), 2 pieces of white bread, 2 pieces of a white chocolate candy (which I don't even like much so don't even know why I had it.), a microwave mini cake thing, and diet cream soda. >< all from 7 to 12. And I have not been doing my morning dvds with my son because I keep oversleeping until after 9. I need to find a way to stick to everything better. I have a great easy to use chat list thing to mark in and everything, yet I still miss doing things I need to do. ><

any tips on how to keep to my chart? other then someone else helping me, my son is too young to coach me any, have no friends I see enough in person to coach me in a friend way, and my parents won't do it. I need tips on how to coach myself, push myself to keep on track. be my own Jillian.. hehe, sorry, a bad biggest loser joke. ><

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #785 on: May 18, 2010, 11:25:57 am »
Set up a rewards system that doesn't involve food? ^_^;  When I was trying to lose weight (at one point I was 205lbs, got down to 155lbs, now I'm 165lbs and trying to put on more muscle) I put up little pieces of paper all over the house with my target goal.  ESPECIALLY on the fridge and food pantry! XD

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #786 on: May 18, 2010, 11:36:22 am »
rewards system is good. Movies, manga, dresses, purses and/or cute bags. Tried that a long time ago, but don't remember if it worked so trying again won't hurt.

I have the Meiko cosplay I want up in a lot of places, my mom took it off the frig and of the wall by the TV upstairs though. >< two places I need it the most. by the TV because it helps me keep going when I do the dvds.

*now runs off to work before she is late.* ><

And congrats on that lose! it is a big number. and muscle is an awesome awesome thing. Just sit there and lose weight after a workout! ^^ and it looks neat.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #787 on: May 18, 2010, 12:09:53 pm »
Thanks.  I've been working really hard on my back lately.  I've noticed some muscle development, so that's very good.  My lower back still needs work.  I received a back massage from a friend last month and she commented how my upper back was hard but my lower back soft.  She didn't mean anything by it, but ouch! xD  Of course one of my motivations in improving my back is to correct some postural issues.  Since we're all nerds here, we spend way too much time in chairs in front of computers.  So, we develop shoulder/upper back issues (kyphosis) and lower back issues (lordosis).

For lordosis, I've been doing supine bridges and bird dogs.  For kyphosis, I do scapular wall slides, push ups (with correct form), and foam rolling. ^_^;

(Note: those pictures look like pretty extreme cases of either condition.  Most people have it much more subtly than that.)
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #788 on: May 18, 2010, 01:15:19 pm »
I kinda feel like I should post here, mostly cause I'm the same boat as most here

I'm looking into cosplaying my first time the con, and I need to lose a lot of weight to even come close to fitting in my 2% completed costume XD

Mostly the fight has been slow, I got an odometer to measure my steps in a day and that's helped me walk a lot but only so far.

The big thing I wanted to push was something I've been trying for a little bit is "Xenadrine".

Now I don't get paid or have any association with them, but they are doing me some good, so let’s spread the news.

one bottle with 60 pills cost me about $22 and I bought from Wal-mart, you take about 2 pills before each meal, and they say that for best results go 45 days on this schedule.

which adds up to about $115 for enough pills to last 45 days, so it is a bit much to get, but it's been nearly a week, and I've already lost some weight (about 5 lb) plus the energy boost is supposed to be the equivalent of 2 cups of coffee, and as I don't drink much caffeine, both the energy it gives me (as well as the side effects) are hitting hard.

The bad part is the cost as it's an investment, and the caffeine headache, which tend to go away with a large bottle of water.

The good parts are the weight loss, and the energy I get from the pills.

So I just wanted to recommend it, as it's really worth a poke for the larger set folk looking for a schedule and helping hand. XP


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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #789 on: May 18, 2010, 03:07:44 pm »
^ if my weight loss plan doesn't work, then I'll try that.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #790 on: May 18, 2010, 03:51:07 pm »
I haven't jogged since some time last week and I've been eating lots of deliciously bad food... but my calves feel toner for some reason!

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #791 on: May 18, 2010, 04:04:58 pm »
I'm always nervous about weight loss pills.  I dunno.  It's like equivalent exchange in Full Metal Alchemist xD  What are you giving up to lose weight?  If all you do is take a pill, well .. you might lose weight, but there's an unknown cost to you.  It might be that you never develop enough discipline to lose weight and you end up gaining it right back once you stop taking pills.  Or, it could harm your body in some unknown way. ^_^;  Plus if you're someone like me that has anxiety / panic disorder, all that extra caffeine is a big no no. ^_^;

I'm not trying to come down on anyone, so I hope it doesn't come across that way. ^_^

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #792 on: May 18, 2010, 04:10:19 pm »
I had a good workout today. I have a fitness goal to try to reach before school gets out. I would like to be able to run three miles in 30 minutes. Today I ran at that pace for 15 minutes and I am going to push myself another minute at least tomorrow. If I keep up this rate I imagine by June 12 I will be able to do it. Who knows though =/

I also did squats with weights for the first time in a long time today so I imagine my legs are going to be hella sore tomorrow. Maybe latter tonight I will do a few more leg workouts and then stretch.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #793 on: May 18, 2010, 04:37:53 pm »
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It's all good, personally my problem isn't muscle as I as I have that, it's literally fat

The pill helps burn fat and gives me more energy, the gain is that

The loss is going to be increase of spaz levels, side effects from caffeine, which make me bounce around a lot and headaches, which aren't bad, but they are defiantly coming and going.

Also I am always hungry it's speed my metabolism so if I don't watch myself then I'll eat bad when on pill, and when off I'll eat bad cause well old habits die hard XD

Shrug, the risks out weight the costs I suppose, maybe I can get by just losing an arm and a leg...course then I get all new metaly once, and wouldn't that be just awesome XD

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #794 on: May 18, 2010, 07:06:47 pm »
I did good on the treadmill today! ^^ so proud of myself because I got super depressed after work. (felt so invisible there today, I was so excited about so much but had no one to talk to, even the guy that came in when I was leaving, who normally lets me talk to him a little was ignoring me.) But I still went! ^^

Reppy -  both the kyphosism and the  lordosis links lead to the lordosis image. I might have those issues. Been a computer junkie since .. well, around 6th grade. I have a hump, small one, on my back, right where the neck meets the back, that I don't see on people very often. Normally only see it on others who are overweight or a little overweight with long necks like me. Not sure if it is from kyphosism and/or lordosis or not. but it bugs me so much and if those exercises can get rid of it I am so doig them all the time.

and I love how you put the pills thing,  equivalent exchange. I am always afraid of diet pills. I gave in and been trying SlimQuick, which is almost all gone. But I don't feel like it's helping with any weight stuff. the caffeine... a whole lot of it, 2 coffee cups worth each pill and I take 2 pills a day, has just brought back my insomnia and caffeine withdraw headache I get at night. going to be so hard to lose though again once the bottle is empty. It seems to help my mood a little though, when I am done with it I am going to find a supplement/vitamin that is the same as what they use in their pills for the mood part.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #795 on: May 18, 2010, 07:15:17 pm »
Reppy -  both the kyphosism and the  lordosis links lead to the lordosis image. I might have those issues. Been a computer junkie since .. well, around 6th grade. I have a hump, small one, on my back, right where the neck meets the back, that I don't see on people very often. Normally only see it on others who are overweight or a little overweight with long necks like me. Not sure if it is from kyphosism and/or lordosis or not. but it bugs me so much and if those exercises can get rid of it I am so doig them all the time.

and I love how you put the pills thing,  equivalent exchange. I am always afraid of diet pills. I gave in and been trying SlimQuick, which is almost all gone. But I don't feel like it's helping with any weight stuff. the caffeine... a whole lot of it, 2 coffee cups worth each pill and I take 2 pills a day, has just brought back my insomnia and caffeine withdraw headache I get at night. going to be so hard to lose though again once the bottle is empty. It seems to help my mood a little though, when I am done with it I am going to find a supplement/vitamin that is the same as what they use in their pills for the mood part.

I fixed the image link.  I think I'm starting to notice a difference.  I remember several months ago looking at myself in the mirror, feeling that my head was sticking forward too far.  But, I looked all around me and it seemed like most people looked like that .. so I figured hey, that must be how people look .. right?  Nope.  We just all have kyphosis or something. xD

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #796 on: May 18, 2010, 09:07:49 pm »
Been awhile since I've been in here. Mostly because I really wasn't trying that hard to lose weight, I just, didn't care even though I really do need to and want to lose some extra baggage.

But this morning I decided I wanted to wear some shorter pants since it's been so warm lately and the only thing I had that was clean and that I felt like wearing was a pair of capri's. Now in the past these have been like my tightest pair of pants. So I put them on knowing I'd be in pain later and they came on so easily and I could even pull them away an inch or two. I dunno if I lost weight or if the pants some how stretched but I am happy to know I can wear these pants more easier now.
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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #797 on: May 18, 2010, 10:50:53 pm »
yay! great job!  ;D

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #798 on: May 20, 2010, 01:58:04 am »
I weighed myself again today. I lost 2 pounds since Monday.

I'm trying to figure out how that happened.

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Re: Getting in shape for con season 2010
« Reply #799 on: May 23, 2010, 02:26:42 pm »
30 bicep curls (8 lb. weights)

OMFG so cute ^.^


For those who do leg lifts, if you don't feel it in the abs try lifting higher, holding your arms in different positions or under your back, keep your back and legs straight, or do 90 degree leg lift reps.  Lots of different ways to do leg lift exercises out there, you just have to try them all and pick the ones you enjoy.

I am tempted to try out this P90x workout. Unfortunately it is very expensive but a lot of people have seen results from it. Oh yeah everyone mentions that it is very hard though.
WE SHOULD ALL GO IN ON IT AND FORM A GROUP WORKOUT SESSION!  XD
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