Saki basically got what I was saying, but I'll still reply anyway because I don't think you understand.
The original post was written that way because it was funny, and also so that people realize that we (the people running the panel) have a looser sense of humor and restriction than the people who ran the panel this year. I did not intend to insult them, but I also don't intend to change the first post. Cannot Unsee's panel isn't a World Meeting. It's a panel by Hetalia fans FOR Hetalia fans that are over the age of 18.
Intent and how you come across are two entirely different things. Sure, it isn't your intent to sound passive-aggressive, but that's how you come across. It's simply a word of advice and a warning, as Saki explained.
It won't be 'lacking rules' (we actually expect our panelists and attendees both to follow con, hotel, state, and federal laws alike, and we won't hesitate to ask for people breaking those laws to be escorted out by staff), but we're not going to penalize people for getting excited and acting in-character.
Except those are a given. I meant lacking rules other than basic laws. Sorry, but I don't want to sit in a panel for a few hours hearing nothing but rape jokes and memes and I have a feeling other people may not, either- Which is exactly why I'm not going, because I've been to enough cons and been in the fandom long enough to know that that's exactly what it would degenerate into. If you went to this year's shoot, you'd have known that Shi and I laid down some basic rules and everything went smoothly. You wouldn't have those aside from con, hotel, state, and federal laws, which again are a given.
If a panel that ends up being more like the "world meetings" tend to become in the anime and manga isn't for you, there's no need for you to come.
Again, wasn't planning on it. Also, I wasn't aware that the world meetings in the anime/manga were rated R?
Please don't try to tell us how to run our panel if you have no intention of attending it in the first place. (Also, if you wish to comment on the first post of the Cannot Unsee Hetalia panel topic, please do so IN the topic in question, or PM me privately. This is not the appropriate place for this discussion.)
It's interesting how you say this after you continue the discussion in my thread. Also, I'm sorry you take my critique as telling you how to run your panel. I'm simply giving you advice and warning you. After all, by deciding to do this, you have opened yourself up for critique and I would rather do it in an open forum where people can respond.
I don't think she was trying to tell you how to run your pannel. I think she was just warning you that, because of what you said in your other thread about the "insanity" that's going to happen in this pannel, someone might say something that might get other people offended (Seriously, if i was there and someone made ANY joke concerning Hitler and Jews, i'd get up and storm out of that pannel faster then a cheetah.)
So it wasn't really telling you what to do, it was more of a warning on how people might take the "people can get excited and say whatever they want" thing to the extreme and offend people.
Also, what you said about them having a looser sense of humor wasn't exactly nice...
Pretty much this. Also, an addendum to the Hitler jokes, I'd have to strongly resist the urge to punch anyone who made rape jokes. Hence why Shi and I politely ask the people at our shoots to not make those jokes. Thank you for bringing up the Nazis, though, Saki, I'll have to remember that for next year. Thankfully, no one shouted any jokes about the Nazis this year at the shoot.
I've seen over 18 panels get much worse than what happened in the Hetalia panel this year, I have no intention of letting the panel get too out of hand, or letting our panelists or attendees break any laws (or con rules), but after seeing all the wank and complaints about this years panel, my assertion about needing a 'looser' sense of humor when it comes to such things seems valid, at least on my part. It wasn't intended as an insult, but you can take it whatever way you want.
Again, intent and the way one comes across are two entirely different things. If you choose to find offensive jokes funny, that is your business, but keep in mind that it could alienate quite a few people and keep them from going to your panel.
I don't have any intention of cracking jokes about hitler, or jews. As far as I know, the people who have already said they plan to come, would probably find that in bad taste as well, and having most of a room glaring at you because you made a joke like that would definitely be less than comfortable for the person who did it as well.
Most offensive jokes aren't pre-meditated, they just fly out of someone's mouth, and just because you won't doesn't mean no one else will. The people who say they will come are not the only people going to the panel as well.
Also, no offense, but have you never been to a panel, much less a Hetalia one? At a convention? People wouldn't be glaring. They'd be laughing along and they'd continue them. As much as I hate to say it, the Hetalia fandom has a bad rep for a reason and that's because the fans
can get out of hand, especially when it comes to Nazis. (although you guys were amazing this year and Shi and I love you all for it. <3) Remember Anime Boston?
I'm not requiring that anyone attend the panel if they don't want to, but I do ask that you kindly not give your 'advice' in an open forum if you have no intention of attending in the first place, or if you feel you truly must, please post in the topic about that panel, so we don't end up hijacking this hetalia cosplay topic any more than we already have. If someone has something to say to me or anyone else involved with the panel, and don't want to do so in the panel topic, they can do it in PMs.
The Hetalia cosplay topic
always gets hijacked. We got off-topic all the time during the very first one even, albeit that was more about history and less about potential drama. You advertised your panel in here and I gave a response- In here. I feel it was perfectly appropriate.
